Sunday, February 12, 2006

INFJ Profile

Very cool descriptor of my personality type "infj". Is it useful? It clarifies some aspects of my personality I have had difficulty putting in words. I have in the past sort of yearned to be a religious leader but have been understandably hindered by a lack of faith in Jesus. In Guides I always led "Guides Own' which is church for those without religion. The other "callings" i have had are politician, counsellor and writer.
It also explains why people always seem to think of me as an extrovert when I see myself more as an introvert. i'm going to read some of the other personality types now.

INFJ Profile

8 Comments:

Blogger redsaucer said...

i went to church a lot; in fact, i went to a catholic school for 3 years, and then an anglican school for 6 years, where i literally went to church every day, and twice on sundays: i was a choristor, a chapel reader, and a sacristan. like you, i felt the pull towards priesthood, and i was in a powerful, reinforcing environment.

except, the opposite happened: i reasoned, and perhaps i felt or intuited, my way out of christian belief... i didn't give up belief, for that would be very un-INFJ, i found other beliefs....

11:13 p.m., February 12, 2006  
Blogger Katrina Urquhart said...

What other beliefs? Do you think most pastors actually believe that Jesus is the ONLY way? There are a few intelligent open-minded people in this Alpha program, people I have respected. Can they truly believe that there is only one answer? Do they believe that Buddhists or Muslims are not also right? I think they're all right. Is that wrong?

8:20 a.m., February 13, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think most people confuse "social" with "extroverted".

If you want to know if the pastors believe there is only one answer, you should ask them - right? But you know that it isn't a matter of question & answer, but instead of method or route, in which case there are many ways, wtih all the advantages and disadvantages they offer to individuals.

3:49 p.m., February 13, 2006  
Blogger Katrina Urquhart said...

Actually I do plan to ask the pastor at the Knox church. We'll be going back for ALpha, and Kelly and I went to the service on Sunday while our kids went to Sunday school. He didn't walk about Jesus as much as he did God. I'm OK with God as the divine. I'll ask the lawyer who goes as well. I've always admired him.
It's a cool church, very up on multimedia, very kid-friendly. The pastor plays the keyboard and sings; alot of the songs are ones he himself wrote, and they rock. His wife is glamorous and gorgeous and grooves away into the microphone, there's bass and geetar and the pastor's son plays drums. The kids enjoyed it apart from Davey being bored by "stories of Jesus and sheep".

8:06 p.m., February 13, 2006  
Blogger redsaucer said...

i agree with cm, you gotta ask the pastor. it seems to me, that despite the past aims of some instittuions, belief is such a personal thing that there are as many shades and hues of belief as there are believers (and non-believers, too), that it ranges thru an entire continuum of belief. there are ecumenical pastors, and by that i mean not only those who accept the rights of others to have their own belief, but also accept that others' beliefs are as valid as their own; i imagine there are pastors who have lost their own certainty, and some may have even lost their own belief entirely, yet for whatever reasons continue their pastoral care.

12:38 a.m., February 17, 2006  
Blogger redsaucer said...

been thinking more about this, 'specially after the convo we three had while playing canasta the other night (where i tried my hardest to distract you, but you still cleaned up big time).

i don't think we're any less special or any more special in this universe than my cat or a rock or a mote of dust. right now, i'm feeling that there's no universal 'moral' purpose, apart from the purpose to be whatever it is we're supposed to be, just as my cat is doing what it's supposed to be, or the rock or the mote of dust.

i yam what i yam, johari and nohari and more. my nohari is part of what drives my johari, and probably vice versa. yin-yang.

the sooner i figure that out, the sooner i can get back to being one with the universe, like my lazy-ass cat, or that rock, or that mote of dust....

6:25 p.m., February 18, 2006  
Blogger Katrina Urquhart said...

That's where I'm at, or thereabouts. It's pretty much where I've been since childhood. Still kill sopiders though, although it causes me some angst. Eating meat causes me angst, yet I do it. I have TAO on my ankle and still I kill or consume beings which I believe to be as divine as I am. No wonder I get hives.
The nohari is part of your shadow, another life long theme of mine. Part of Kev's appeal is that he knows his shadow, although it turns out he doesn't know the half of it really. I was afraid of Dave because he denied his shadow - I knew better but acted anyway. That too it seems, is a life long theme. I'd be happier and more delighted in life if I would do what I know is better. Life would be hard, and I'm lazy that way. My constant quest is to get back to being essentially me, but I hamper this quest by striving at work, and striving for comfort, and allowing others to moderate me in order to keep them near, and other such distractions. I'm equally thirsting for divine oneness/taoist peace and realistically trying to get and stay on top and meet my obligations in the artifical construct of North American society.

7:19 a.m., February 19, 2006  
Blogger redsaucer said...

i know these feelings well, have struggled, do struggle, and will struggle with them.

death is part of life, and most living things are killed. i doubt that most things live long enough to die of old age. charlotte is an exception -- most spiders don't live long enough to curl up and die, else why would charlotte have hundreds of babies? my daily act of living kills other living things: i tread on lving things, i swallow and inhale microorganisms, i eat living things, and living things eventually will sicken and die because of pollution caused by the making and powering of things in my life.

what are we supposed to do? aren't we doing it, raising our kids as best as we can? it's not like we're suddenly going to renounce all worldly possessions and ways. even if we could, what good would it do? the author of 'the graduate' did that, shortly after his novel became famous: joined some kind of back-to-the-land nudist colony which i read a few years back he's still doing. good for him, but not good for us. the world lumbers on without him.

i remember some comment: it's easy to be holy on top of a mountain. but isn't the point of taoism and meditation and buddhism and prayer in any mystical tradition, isn't the point to find your own center, at whatever altitude we are?

before i started writing this reply, i was thinking of the dark side, and the battle betweem the sith and the jedi; even the jedi used mind control and weapons, or is that only to make a good movie?

i'm sure my thoughts these days are affected by my lack of activism these days.

10:13 p.m., February 19, 2006  

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