Sunday, January 07, 2007

the Divine

The thirst and quest for the Divine is always upon me.
CBC quote: "You have the right to expand your sole."
My fever is back just now, my coherence wanes, I'm swimming in thoughts of the value of ritual, the search for meaning, the divinity of beauty. When Jesus said "I am the Way, none shall approach the Father but through me" (or something like that) did he mean we have to pray through his name, or did he mean "through me" as "in my fashion"? You can follow Jesus' example without ever entering a Church. His lesson's are so stripped down. Can simplicity be a mantra? And I'm keep wondering why it's Christianity. Why so much the worship of Jesus, and not God and the Holy Spirit? What did Peter call me? Katrinity. I like that almost as much as Kurt's Katelyst.
Between fluish fever and churning monthly hormones, I'm teary and slipping through my thought streams.
"I will not worship this red light."
Who is this speaking on CBC?
Elizabeth Gilbert, author of "Eat Pray Love"

10 Comments:

Blogger redsaucer said...

sole? if the shoe fits, wear it; else, expand, eh? ;)

convert, subvert; -vert from Latin vertere, to turn. to everything (turn, turn, turn)/there is a season (turn, turn, turn)/and a time for every purpose, under heaven. //
to turn, turn will be our delight,/ till by turning, turning we come round right. spinnyheaded yet?

i guess we're called christians because, of the three persons, jesus was the visible one, the vocal one, the word-made-flesh.

and i guess because we need labels. what if we didn't use labels, just as we if we didn't use pews or rites or other borders. believers without borders. if asked, yes, i believe in jesus. but i also believe in the buddha, and the tao, and all aspects of the divine. love and eternal goodness and truth, these are synonymous with god, and if we believe in them, then we must go through jesus, we must go through compassion, we must go through the way. without labels, it's all the same universal call and response, the eternal longing between lover and beloved.

5:56 p.m., January 08, 2007  
Blogger Katrina Urquhart said...

sometimes i think this:

the bigger picture is in front of me and in quiet times of meditation and fevered times of prayer and throughout reflection I can see the bigger picture - it looks like many similar pictures drawn on transperencies, overlayered upon each other and spread across each other and it comes to focus with one figure in the centre and I say -of course, of course, of course and then I lose the picture.
i think one day instead of saying of course, I will instead slide silently to my computer and type about it, or to my writing desk and write about it - there are times when I write i fall almost into a trance, so much I don't know what i've writ until i later read it. And so this silent day will be and I'll forget to go to work or do the dishes and will eat or drink what is at hand until the vision goes or the writing is done.

I'm not sure what would happen after that. Maybe just post it and then call my boss and beg forgiveness!

10:05 p.m., January 08, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is only one way that the one way can be interpreted. :p

1:37 p.m., January 09, 2007  
Blogger Katrina Urquhart said...

And Celsius, the contestant from the Antarctica, get ten points for "What is glib".

Welcome home pingu.

7:22 p.m., January 09, 2007  
Blogger Astrocrabpuff said...

And even more glib: Jesus Christ! There - that's your answer i.e. Muslims view Jesus as another prophet, not the Son of God as Christians do. The Jews viewed Christ as a pin-up. Just kidding. :p

8:01 p.m., January 09, 2007  
Blogger redsaucer said...

*one* way is to allow for *many* ways.

a quantum mechanic and a buddhist monk both know that the perceiver plays an active role in creating reality. in the weird worlds of quantum mechanics, such as the copenhagen interpretation of the
wave-particle duality as exhibited in the double-slit experiment, all realities exist until a measurement is taken, at which point all the realities collapse to one.

a label is a measurement, a judgment.

8:54 p.m., January 09, 2007  
Blogger Katrina Urquhart said...

Yes. Well. Errrr, more tea?

I'm currently corresponding with a Csolve help desk person who will fulfill my request once she has permission from Kate Anderson. I am Kate Anderson I reply. I am Katrina Urquhart and Kate Anderson. Ahh, says she, now I cannot give full input without more information from the holder of coffeekate.com. I am coffeekate, and Katrina Urquhart and Kate Anderson. Ask any one part your question and any one shall answer because all three parts are one and all three shall thus know.
I'm still waiting. I'm in no hurry.

9:29 p.m., January 09, 2007  
Blogger redsaucer said...

LOL! yes, more tea please. it's rather good. what's in it?

10:57 p.m., January 09, 2007  
Blogger redsaucer said...

more tea:

What St. Teresa really did was to actualize in her own experience, apprehend in the “ground of her soul” by means of her extraordinarily developed transcendental perceptions, the three distinct and personal Aspects of the Godhead which are acknowledged by the Christian religion.

First, the Father, pure transcendent Being, creative Source and Origin of all that Is: the Unconditioned and Unknowable One of the Neoplatonists: Who is “neither This nor That” and must be conceived, pace M. Delacroix, as utterly transcendent to the subject rather than “set up within the soul.”

Secondly, in the Person of Christ, St. Teresa isolated and distinguished the Logos or Creative Word; the expression, or outbirth, of the Father’s thought. Here is the point at which the Divine Substance first becomes apprehensible by the spirit of man; that mediating principle “raised up between heaven and earth” which is at once the Mirror of Pure Being and the Light of a finite world. The Second Person of the Christian Trinity is for the believer not only the brightness or express image of Deity, but also the personal, inexhaustible, and responsive Fount of all life and Object of all love: Who, because of His taking up (in the Incarnation) of humanity into the Godhead, has become the Bridge between finite and infinite, between the individual and the Absolute Life, and hence in mystic language the “true Bridegroom” of every human soul.

Thirdly, she recognized within herself the germ of that Absolute Life, the indwelling Spirit which is the source of man’s transcendental consciousness and his link with the Being of God. That is to say, the Holy Spirit of Divine Love, the Real Desirous seeking for the Real Desired, without Whose presence any knowledge of or communion with God on man’s part would be inconceivable.

In the supreme Vision of the Trinity which was vouchsafed to St. Teresa in the Seventh Habitation of the soul, these three aspects became fused in One. In the deepest recesses of her spirit, in that abyss where selfhood ceases to have meaning, and the individual soul touches the life of the All, distinction vanished and she “saw God in a point.” Such an experience, such an intuition of simple and undifferentiated Godhead—the Unity—beyond 110 those three centres of Divine Consciousness which we call the Trinity of Persons, is highly characteristic of mysticism....

“By some mysterious manifestation of the truth,” she says, “the three Persons of the most Blessed Trinity reveal themselves, preceded by an illumination which shines on the spirit like a most dazzling cloud of light. The three Persons are distinct from one another; a sublime knowledge is infused into the soul, imbuing it with a certainty of the truth that the Three are of one substance, power, and knowledge, and are one God. Thus that which we hold as a doctrine of faith, the soul now, so to speak, understands by sight, though it beholds the Blessed Trinity neither by the eyes of the body nor of the soul, this being no imaginary vision. All the Three Persons here communicate Themselves to the soul, speak to it, and make it understand the words of our Lord in the Gospel, that He and the Father and the Holy Ghost will come and make their abode with the soul which loves Him and keeps His commandments.

O my God, how different from merely hearing and believing these words is it to realize their truth in this way! Day by day a growing astonishment takes possession of this soul, for the three Persons of the Blessed Trinity seem never to depart; that They dwell far within its own centre and depths; though for want of learning it cannot describe how, it is conscious of the indwelling of these divine Companions.”

From Mysticism: A Study in Nature and Development of Spiritual Consciousness, "Chapter V. Mysticism and Theology" by Evelyn Underhill, 1911.

"First published in 1911, Mysticism remains the classic in its field... Mysticism makes an in-depth and comprehensive exploration of its subject. Part One examines The Mystic Fact, explaining the relation of mysticism to vitalism, to psychology, to theology, to symbolism, and to magic. Part Two, The Mystic Way, explores the awakening, purification, and illumination of the self; discusses voices and visions; and delves into manifestations from ecstasy and rapture to the dark night of the soul."

11:12 p.m., January 09, 2007  
Blogger Katrina Urquhart said...

"ecstasy and rapture to the dark night of the soul."

"the personal, inexhaustible, and responsive Fount of all life and Object of all love"

“saw God in a point....The three Persons are distinct from one another; a sublime knowledge is infused into the soul, imbuing it with a certainty of the truth that the Three are of one substance, power, and knowledge, and are one God"

Ahhhhhh better even than licorice tea....

8:48 p.m., January 14, 2007  

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